I respectfully disagree.

The previous leak flood rate nearly rendered ships useless and was unrealistically high. Ships were going under in seconds - real ships took minutes to sink. Talking about military ships, even the HMS Hood which was ripped in two via a magazine detonation, took three minutes to sink.

And because this is SW where everything is down-scaled so our computers can run it, our smaller 30-50m ships sinking at the speed of their larger equivalents in reality is very appropriate for the game.

Even if the leak flood rate is not completely realistic, slowed sinkings are a far more fun experience to be a part of, speaking from personal experience.

I agree with Rowan. The old flow rate was realistic. There was a sense of danger when you would collide with something. Now the flooding is not a threat and any hand pump can deal with it. We just tested a c4 on our liner, and the c4 we detonated on the hull in the boiler room caused no visible flooding, where as before it would flood.

We also tested it on our small steam launch. We put 4 c4 all around it so the whole thing would be damaged. It sank in 2 minutes.

I hope the flood rate can be reverted back to what it was before. It was much more pleasurable, realistic, and threatening. Now we can blow things up or run into things and disregard it.

I respectfully disagree with your disagreement (quack). Water gushes into a hole in the ship. its not a slow process. If you're having issues with your ships sinking too quickly, or find them useless, then you need to design them better. what the slower sinking rate does mean, is that weapons like torpedoes become significantly less of a threat. It makes the stakes in a game where the the stakes are already pretty minimal, even less minimal. Ive played around with the new flood rates and honestly i preferred the previous rate much better.

I respectfully disagree with your disagreement (quack). Water gushes into a hole in the ship. its not a slow process. If you're having issues with your ships sinking too quickly, or find them useless, then you need to design them better. what the slower sinking rate does mean, is that weapons like torpedoes become significantly less of a threat. It makes the stakes in a game where the the stakes are already pretty minimal, even less minimal. Ive played around with the new flood rates and honestly i preferred the previous rate much better.

I agree that the old flood rate was superior, a torpedo shouldn't leave a ship with a slight inconvenience. Something like that should be a serious threat to the ship, and the new flood rate isn't able to make the same effect as it realistically should.

ScoodlyPoodly, it is a slow process. Minutes long. I've already responded to the realism argument.

I can easily make a ship that doesn't sink whether it uses the previous flood rate or not.

The point is that the average player isn't into competitive MP, nor do they know how to properly design bulkheads and use glitched pumps, which are white-listed exploits used in the small competitive scene we're talking about.

In the minutes-long sinking, a seconds-long repair torch pass by one of the multiple crew members in our ocean liner voyages can render any damage laughable.

As for the glitched pumps, they are used for the purposes of lag reduction; Large pipe systems cause lag because of their live calculations, so a very small pipe system, such as pumping directly into an air manifold, makes the game playable in multiplayer.

Players do not need to understand how to properly design bulkheads or use glitched pumps. The point we are making is that the threat of running aground puts fear into the players, so they stay aware while piloting their ships. That is regardless of how well their ship is built.

The competitive scene is not the primary reason for my liking the increased flood rate, and it seems I am not the only one of this opinion.

Well, the solution looks simple: restrict the use of welding torches, use less sealed compartments if need be.

Individuals welding catastrophically damaged hulls back together is also unrealistic.

You're looking at three birds in one stone here: you get the faster, less-laggy and 'realistic' sinking experience. Anyone else who prefers the slowed sinking can play on, repairing what they need as normal.

I truly believe this pleases more people, also because another hardcore voyage community I'm part of has no trouble keeping sailing as a difficult experience.

A slowed flood rate is more manageable on the player's end than an increased one.

and that's my primary reason for standing by the new change.

I will respectfully disagree and leave it at that

Id be fine if it wasnt as fast as before, but it is too slow the way it is now. there is a happy medium that an be achieved, but it is in a REALISTIC sense too slow and takes away from a much more tense and thrilling experience

I will respectfully disagree and leave it at that

I will respectfully disagree and leave it at that

My next bug report will be about the bug tracker!

I agree, it was so much better the way it was before. Sinking ships were actually fun to be in, now they take hours to sink.

Actually, my 1:1 Titanic sinks with actual real time. Boiler room 6 doesn't flood until just after 1 hour from the start of flooding.

well thats nice Lazydev, but we are talking about 2 different things here. You sink your titanic using doors. We're talking about the flood rate caused by damage, such as when a bomb blows up. the flood rate from doors has not changed, but the flood rate cause by DAMAGE has. I guarantee if you were to use c4 to damage the same amount of area your doors cover, it would take much MUCH longer than the 3 hours to sink. were asking that the flood rate be increased somewhat so it more accurately represents flooding rates so that is you were to use c4 rather than door for example, your titanic would still sink in about 3 hours. (its also 4 am where i am so this may be coming off a bit harsh. not intended that way) hopefully that gives you a better idea of what were talking about

Absolutely. The flood rate was amazing before this newest update, but now it's much too slow. I hope it can be reverted to normal

ad Quack: If players do not want to be competitive, either toward other players or AI attacking them, or toward the environment or their inability to design and steer safe ships, there is always the option of turning off vehicle damage. This game however is about designing ships, that is its only purpose. And if we take that purpose away, what is even left?

Thanks for your report. However this is clearly not a defect but a request to change balance. I think the flood rate has largely been the same for years except for a short period where a bug effected flood rates. So this is not considered a valid bug report.